Wire wheels

[cass3958]

I have finally got the wire wheels for the car and had them fitted.
Below are the before and after photos but also a couple of photos showing the difference between an original curley hub, the new shallow curley hub which I have bought and the flat or easy clean hub that was fitted to the later S types from 1967 and the one that should perhaps have been on my car due to its age but I prefer the curly hub.
The three types of wire wheel available. On the left the flat hub. Middle is the original but painted deep curley hub and on the right the new shallow curley hub.

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Close up of flat/easy clean hub for later S Types.

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Close up of the original Dunlop deep curley hub.

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Close up of the new Dunlop shallow curley hub.

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The old painted wheel on the car.

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The new chromed wheel on the car.

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[Glyn Ruck]

Very nice Rob ~ look great!

[Glyn Ruck]

Rob ~ I meant to ask you. What wheel balancing weights did you use?

1) Spoke balancing weights
2) Stick on weights
3) Hammer on weights

[Glyn Ruck]

Rob ~ I meant to ask you. What wheel balancing weights did you use?

1) Spoke balancing weights
2) Stick on weights
3) Hammer on weights

[cass3958]

Stick on weights were used but I was not impressed by the original balance of the wheels and I am in the process of complaining. Once the tyres were on the balance was all over the place and a lot of weight was needed to get them straight. So we decided to check if it was the tyre or the wheel and removed the tyre and just checked the balance of the wire wheel. his was way out and you could see the buckle in the wheel as it span on the balancer. We managed to get two wheels balanced but had to use a lot of weight and gave up on the other two so they are on the back of the car. I complained to SC Parts who I bought them off but they are MWS wheels so the complaint might go all the way back there as SC Parts just said, " What would you like us to do about it as we have never in 20 years had a complaint about the wire wheels before."
I took not just photos but Video footage of one of the wheels being balanced tyre and no tyre. We shall see what they say.

[Glyn Ruck]

Sorry to hear that. Wheels should run true.

Presume you provided your own balancer cones for mounting on the balancer.

With some tyres I find the valve marking to be out. Sometimes pays to de-bead the tyre & rotate through 90 degrees on the rim & re balance.

[Fredomusicman]

Hi Gentlemen,
Here is again the apprentice
Completely new in pre-leyland and S type as you know. The S I will see next does not have the wire wheels. And I want to go for Wire wheels. It' a late 67MY, so these wheels should fit (chrome from the start), and the smaler spinner if I'm right ?
http://shop.mwsint.com/product_details.asp?id=513

But a question, I assume the steel wheels are screwed like standart steels ? (around the central hub ? )And Wire W. are only screwed with the center hub (what is called spiner ?), so I guess there are some modifications to do to go on wire wheels ????
Thanks !

Edit ! I just saw this Topic with this adaptations to do, easy job ? Where are they to find ?
http://www.jagstyperegister.com/forum_n ... 8&start=10

Here ? But I only see the rear..
https://www.orsonequipment.co.uk/browse/

[Glyn Ruck]

MWS (Motor Wheel Service) UK can supply all you need & I suggest you read their site.

Dayton wheels US can equally supply all.

The biggest difficulty in the change over is setting/shimming the rear wheel hubs. You will have to get shims from SNG Barratts or similar.

Front wheels are dead easy.

Especially read the MWS section on balancing centre lock wheels. Ignore Dayton ~ they are wrong and you will use more weight to balance & have trouble.

Balancing wire wheels 1.JPG (81.68 KiB) Viewed 769 times

Balancing wire wheels 2.JPG (65.87 KiB) Viewed 769 times

balancing wire wheels 3.png (255.73 KiB) Viewed 769 times

Dayton ~ Wrong!!!

Dayton wrong balancing..JPG (21.27 KiB) Viewed 769 times

Smoothride provides an affordable kit that gets the job done correctly.

http://smoothridecones.co.uk/

The beautiful kit that MWS provides is really for a tyre change shop & endless use where you would ultimately wear out a set of Smoothride cones.

[Fredomusicman]

Ok, ok, thanks !
SNG Barrat sells in FR too, and UK is closer to me, ok.
My Mechanic (retired but helps his son) Work since 40y on old Jags and others, I think I will let him do the job when it will be the moment then.
Thanks Glynn.
Of course at first I will give you news from my visit by next week-end.

[Glyn Ruck]

Then MWS is the right supplier for you. That's where i got mine from. They will ship anywhere.

Just make sure you get the right wheels from their selection. If unsure phone them.

Your car needs 52mm splined hubs. 72 spoke wheels. 15"
Good luck!.