3.4S fetches GBP 29K

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3.4S fetches GBP 29K

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Per David's e mail.

https://silverstoneauctions.com/events/ ... s-type-3.4

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Re: 3.4S fetches GBP 29K

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This is intriguing Glyn. I have just had a good look at the photos and there is one photo of the VIN tag. The details are hard to read until you blow the photo up but they seem to read Chassis number P1B7760 Engine number 7B 9918-8 Gearbox number JBN 9942. Body number 4B8905.
This car is not on the register but looking at the numbers they do not seem to match up together. It appears which can possibly be seen in the condition of the VIN tag that the engine has been changed and a new VIN tag put on the car.
P1B7760 should have an engine number around 8800 and 8900 not 9918. Vise versa engine number 9918 should have a chassis number in the region of 8700 to 8800 not 7760.
The body number which I think reads 4B8905 relates closer to the chassis number P1B7760 than the engine number 9918.

The number stamping is very bad and when you compare it to my original VIN plate you can clearly see it has been done in a very amateurish fashion. Also if you look at the cut out at the top of my VIN tag it is a V shape where as the altered VIN Tag has a U shape cut out to go around the vacuum pipe.
If I was to guess I would say that this car has had a new engine fitted and the numbers on the VIN plate have been altered to make it look like a matching numbers car. It would have been interesting to see the old green style log book they say came with the papers and compare it with the VIN tag?


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Re: 3.4S fetches GBP 29K

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Yes ~ it is a weird one. Many cars had a U shaped vacuum pipe cutout in the Data plate. Both UK & SA cars. As you say the punching is very amateur.

The other thing is that the original acid etched plates also had an unusual mistake in that "TEXACO" was etched as "TEX ACO" with a gap. Only one supplier had this original etching. This is the plate Classic Jaguar in the USA supplied many years back as a blank & correct.

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Most non original replacement data plates are screened & a dead giveaway as they corrected the gap in TEXACO. The above car's plate has the gap but even that looks flaky.


Fake replacement screened data plates that fall apart including Barratts.

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Re: 3.4S fetches GBP 29K

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WOW!
Thank you guys!
I've looked at the data plate on P1B79909DN a thosand times and the data plates of hundreds of other 'S'-types and did not know about "TEX ACO"
I guess an old dog can be taught...
Chees
David
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